{"id":2329,"date":"2026-09-10T19:44:18","date_gmt":"2026-09-10T19:44:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/adgneducation.org\/?p=2329"},"modified":"2026-09-10T20:49:18","modified_gmt":"2026-09-10T20:49:18","slug":"what-i-found-in-the-cafeteria","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/adgneducation.org\/en\/what-i-found-in-the-cafeteria\/","title":{"rendered":"What I found in the cafeteria"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>The six high schoolers at the cafeteria table start to smile. A minute ago, when I pulled up a chair and invited myself to join them, I got surly teenage looks.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cIf you were in charge of this place for a week, what would you do to make this school better for as many students as possible?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I pause with a big smile right where the comma is. I want to hear from each of them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Four would add a morning break (\u201cI can\u2019t really fit anything else in my brain\u201d). Two would help teachers make class more fun (\u201cWe got this new math curriculum. I don\u2019t even know if the teachers feel comfortable teaching it. They just take exercises out of the books.\u201d).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I join four more tables, then stand in the hall as students walk to class: \u201cHey man, love your shoes. I\u2019m new here\u2026 can I ask a quick question?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In less than an hour, I\u2019ve done 41 of these micro-interviews. Some trends:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Kids are burning out in the morning.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Math needs attention.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The oldest students on campus wish they had a way to make money.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Some one-off comments, too: more pizza days, new basketball uniforms. But I\u2019m listening for patterns that may point toward a strategic priority.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Our team\u2019s job is to help this school with a strategic plan. We talk to staff, review curricula, read leadership meeting agendas, analyze the master schedule, synthesize years of data, and sit in the back of 20 classrooms.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As usual, the students had pointed us in the right direction. The math teachers are not trained on the new curriculum, and they tell me they do not like it. The morning schedule has no breaks, and from the back of the classrooms I watch student participation fall with each passing period. The data shows that some juniors and seniors are dropping out of school to work.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The students did not diagnose every problem or hand us the strategic plan. In under an hour, they told us a lot about where we should pay attention. Many of the students tell me they have never been asked a question like this.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I first tried this as a teacher, and the habit quickly made me better. Later, in business school, I read <em>Talking to Humans<\/em> (available free online, if you\u2019re interested). Its big idea: if you\u2019re building something for people, talk to them while you\u2019re building it. Here\u2019s a cartoon from that book:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"803\" height=\"548\" src=\"https:\/\/adgneducation.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/image-F1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2330\" srcset=\"http:\/\/adgneducation.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/image-F1.png 803w, http:\/\/adgneducation.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/image-F1-300x205.png 300w, http:\/\/adgneducation.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/image-F1-768x524.png 768w, http:\/\/adgneducation.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/image-F1-18x12.png 18w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 803px) 100vw, 803px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>I recently led a workshop for a partner on human-centered design. Here\u2019s one slide from it about talking to students:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Talk to students.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>As many as you can.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Jot the ideas, pull the trends.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>See where they point.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Dig deeper.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>A couple of things to keep in mind: One comment is not a trend, and a trend is not a solution. 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